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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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OKchiefs 09:23 AM Today
Originally Posted by ptlyon:
What is our record?
Yes, wins and rings are what matter most. But the longer his streak of subpar regular season play continues the more it’s goi to tarnish his legacy. There’s also an entertainment factor, isn’t it simply more entertaining to occasionally see the 4-5 TD, 400 yard games we used to see from him and are now seeing from other top QBs? Right now he’s looking like Eli Manning, putting up so so numbers in the regular season but turning it on in the postseason. This year+ streak of regular season play well below the standard he has previously set needs to end sooner than later. Yes it’s not all his fault and the team needs to quit fucking around with giving him shitty protection and subpar weapons. I’d also personally be in favor of a strong pivot soon from a defensive team back to a high flying offensive squad, particularly if we manage to three peat. Yes I love winning but the team was also more entertaining when we were regularly scoring 30+ a game. Spend heavily on offense.
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DJ's left nut 09:28 AM Today
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
He’s actually right. 2022 our offense was #1 in scoring and yards.

It was the best offense in football.
It was similar to this seasons, but better.

Not explosive at all, just inexorable. A water over rocks sort of thing.

And this offense can get there if it just executes. It's not going to be the 2020 offense because the personnel just isn't there. But there's no reason at all it couldn't be at least as good as the 2022 offense if Pat cleans some stuff up, the offensive line gets more consistent and the pass catchers get a little more precise within the offense.

27 points should be a weekly target mark for them. It's been a struggle to get there, but the talent is on the roster to manage it.
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ThrobProng 09:28 AM Today
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
5200 passing yards 41 TD 30 PPG? Piss off :-) In what world is that not Elite play by Pat?

Damn some of you are clueless to what his typical level of play has been in his career compared to the shit this year. There's no comparison.
His first season as a starter was better. 5000 and 50 with one fewer regular season game.
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DJ's left nut 09:30 AM Today
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
5200 passing yards 41 TD 30 PPG? Piss off :-) In what world is that not Elite play by Pat?

Damn some of you are clueless to what his typical level of play has been in his career compared to the shit this year. There's no comparison.
There really isn't, no.

And his play really is the biggest difference between 2024 and 2022. He just didn't miss the kind of balls he's missed this year.

And it's not like OBJ was a brick wall over there. Nor was Wylie as good as Taylor is now (and the IOL was younger and less experienced).

In terms of pass catchers, the only downgrade realistically should be at TE due to Kelce just being older. But Hopkins can/should outperform JJSS and Worthy can/should be better than MVS was. Even Perine can do as much or more than McKinnon did that year.

It really does come down to PM playing at the same level he played at in 2022.

To this point he simply hasn't.
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DJ's left nut 09:31 AM Today
Originally Posted by ThrobProng:
His first season as a starter was better. 5000 and 50 with one fewer regular season game.
Nah.

Watch the games. He wasn't better at all. Defenses weren't geared to stop him, the OL was better and his weapons were substantially more dynamic.

He wasn't a better player in 2018 than he was in 2020 or 2022. He simply had more support (because, duh - he was essentially free).

It demonstrates exactly why stats don't tell the story.
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