- Early career production - Dynamic threat downfield & after the catch - Elite speed & start-stop ability - Fluid mover w/ good route running chops - Ball tracking is A+
Not entirely sure why the vibe isn't higher when talking about him in the WR class. pic.twitter.com/dv3JjdyZgh
I'll write something fresh about Worthy tomorrow morning now that he's a Chief to lay out how he's more than speed, but for now here's an excerpt from article linked in the below tweet... https://t.co/EcW7QtUrFFpic.twitter.com/811ahCEfMS
Originally Posted by RunKC:
So tired of the excuses dude. I’m watching Lamar, Burrow and other QB’s make throws like this dealing with the same shit.
Why are we making excuses here? Be honest. We all love Mahomes but he has not played well this year. He’s been a problem.
I promise it’s okay to say that
I have no problem admitting when Pat is bad but I also understand his thought process looking at these plays in real time.
Check the interior pass rush as soon as this ball is snapped. It looks like the DT is about to get a free rush from basically the moment the ball is snapped. You can tell Pat sees him, he tucks the ball and gets ready to take off, Jawaan’s uncalled hold and Kelce finally coming over helps to slow him down, Pat noticed and re-anchors, he notices Worthy just as Wanya’s man is now coming in an open lane, grips it and rips it.
You just can’t expect a QB to notice the pass rush and also see the whole field simultaneously.
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Mahomes snaps the ball at :06. Wanyas responsibility on the play is bearing down on Mahomes by :09. That's pushing it on a normal play. It's an absolute non starter when you need time to throw it that far down the field.
I think Wanya sucks but I’ll defend him here. He wasn’t the issue. It was Jawaan’s man flashing in front of Pat at the snap that fucked this play.
If that defender had a body on him from the snap, Pat sees Worthy before he even makes his break and this play could have gone for a TD. [Reply]
Why does it have to be mutually exclusive? It wasn't just Worthy failing at footwork and field awareness, or Mahomes throwing a ball too far to the outside, or Taylor letting his man flash, or Morris getting beat too quickly. It's all of the above. [Reply]
Originally Posted by louie aguiar:
Looking at that replay, that miss is mostly on Mahomes- no need to lead him that far to the sideline
Yep. Should've let that one fly a second or two before he threw it. Worthy was wide open as soon as he broke outside. Just a bad throw. Patrick has got to get that cleaned up before the playoffs.
That being said, Worthy definitely had a chance to get both feet down. Lack of spatial awareness. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Why does it have to be mutually exclusive? It wasn't just Worthy failing at footwork and field awareness, or Mahomes throwing a ball too far to the outside, or Taylor letting his man flash, or Morris getting beat too quickly. It's all of the above.
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Mahomes snaps the ball at :06. Wanyas responsibility on the play is bearing down on Mahomes by :09. That's pushing it on a normal play. It's an absolute non starter when you need time to throw it that far down the field.
Are we looking at the same play?
Play action pass- you have Trey Smith and Kelce pulling right to left with the running back motion.
Wanya Morris leaves the end (#57) and blocks down on the DT (#91) and has a double team with Thuney, at no point whatsoever does #91 impact this play. Tre Smith pulls and is responsible for #57 and does a so-so job with his block. Hard to tell if Kelce is supposed to pull all the way with Smith and double team that end- I think he stops halfway because of the interior pressure.
To me the protection doesn't look great since the defense doesn't really take the cheese on the run fake- the blocking angles (Jawaan Taylor's block for example) makes more sense if the d-line takes a step or two towards the running back. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Why does it have to be mutually exclusive? It wasn't just Worthy failing at footwork and field awareness, or Mahomes throwing a ball too far to the outside, or Taylor letting his man flash, or Morris getting beat too quickly. It's all of the above.
Here's the thing; 2018 or 2019 Mahomes makes that throw without question, even with all the variables you mentioned. That's what people are worried about. Pat is simply not doing the things we're used to seeing him do. He's missed an absolutely insane number of deep, wide open targets this year, either via simply not seeing them or making garbage throws. He's making insanely stupid decisions we are not used to as well.
If the LT position is this important to him, then stop dicking around and just trade a bunch of first rounders to move into the top 10 this year and get him a goddamn tackle. Whatever the hell you have to do, go do it to fix this issue. You're not getting one in free agency, and clearly they are not hitting on their draft picks at this spot. Something has to give, you can't keep tossing scabs out there at the second most important position on offense. Eventually, our luck is going to run out and he's going to get destroyed and have his season ended. Just going to have to bite the bullet and make something big happen this offseason. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
Here's the thing; 2018 or 2019 Mahomes makes that throw without question, even with all the variables you mentioned. That's what people are worried about. Pat is simply not doing the things we're used to seeing him do. He's missed an absolutely insane number of deep, wide open targets this year, either via simply not seeing them or making garbage throws. He's making insanely stupid decisions we are not used to as well.
If the LT position is this important to him, then stop dicking around and just trade a bunch of first rounders to move into the top 10 this year and get him a goddamn tackle. Whatever the hell you have to do, go do it to fix this issue. You're not getting one in free agency, and clearly they are not hitting on their draft picks at this spot. Something has to give, you can't keep tossing scabs out there at the second most important position on offense. Eventually, our luck is going to run out and he's going to get destroyed and have his season ended. Just going to have to bite the bullet and make something big happen this offseason.
Yes. That's what the fuck I've been saying for years at this point. Quit fucking around with half measures and get him a fucking LT he trusts. [Reply]
Mahomes is not the sole issue on this offense, but he is the MVP and in the past he would overcome the flaws. Now he is becoming one of the flaws. A 15-11 TD:INT ratio is unacceptable. He's only had a single 300 yard passing game this season. He hasn't had a 7+ YPA since that 300 yard game... 6 weeks ago. He's simply playing like a mediocre game manager right now. [Reply]
Mahomes was bad, Worthy didn't make the play and could have.
Let's talk about how good Worthy looked on all the other plays. Shit this is what I've been waiting for. He looked dynamic and comfortable within the offense. He had his head around when he should have, and his hands looked good. Im excited to see where this goes now. Up to this point he looked like a faster MVS. He actually looks better doing things that aren't the deep ball that he's supposed to at worst be a one trick pony doing. [Reply]