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O.city 03:39 PM 11-21-2024

offensive tackle island rate and performance when on an island pic.twitter.com/sVwTRx9ZKa

— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) November 21, 2024

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RunKC 12:29 AM 11-22-2024
This graph tells me that Jalen Hurts is undoubtedly one of the most overrated pieces of shit in the league
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dlphg9 12:51 AM 11-22-2024
Originally Posted by TheGuardian:
I've watched the bills games 3 times. It was Trey Smith that ****ed us on the line.

Not Morris.
People are obsessed with blaming him and it's just because they don't like him. All of it goes back to his rookie year last season against the Raiders on Christmas. Some people never liked him after that and just decided that he's awful. Those same people though love/loved Kingsley even after Trey Hendrickson assaulted him, but they liked him coming out of the draft. They look past his flaws and think he can be a LTOTF, but I never see anyone saying Morris could possibly be that and he's improved a lot since last season.
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ThaVirus 10:30 AM 11-22-2024
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
He wouldn't have really helped last game. Trey Smith got absolutely worked.

Seth Keysor broke down the protection and this is what he saw

https://open.substack.com/pub/mnchie...droid&r=13eurr

"All right, let's talk numbers. In 11 pass plays (again, prior to the final drive) where the Chiefs faced pressure, here's how I divvied up "blame."

Mahomes - 3 plays

Trey Smith - 2 plays

Trey and Creed Humphrey - 1 play

Trey and Jawaan Taylor -1 play

Receivers covered - 2 plays

Wanya Morris and WR's -1

Unknown -1 (This was a play where the world, including me, blamed Carson Steele for INSTANT pressure, but former Chiefs' All-Pro RT Mitch Schwartz has stated that's not accurate and that no one was really "wrong" on the play. I don't know what went wrong on this play if it's not a protection failure by Steele, but I obviously believe Mitch)"
Maybe so but we’ve played 10 games now and LT has been a significant issue in many of them.
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TEX 11-22-2024, 01:57 PM
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TEX 03:52 PM 11-22-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Maybe so but we’ve played 10 games now and LT has been a significant issue in many of them.
Yes sir.
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Snerd 09:15 AM Yesterday
No tackle is an island.
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Wallcrawler 02:28 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
People are obsessed with blaming him and it's just because they don't like him. All of it goes back to his rookie year last season against the Raiders on Christmas. Some people never liked him after that and just decided that he's awful. Those same people though love/loved Kingsley even after Trey Hendrickson assaulted him, but they liked him coming out of the draft. They look past his flaws and think he can be a LTOTF, but I never see anyone saying Morris could possibly be that and he's improved a lot since last season.
Humphries will have Wanya Morris safely on the sidelines where he belongs by post season.
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xztop123 02:44 PM Yesterday
Idk about the Seth Keysor thing.

All losses aren’t considered equal. When our Lts lose (or hold/false start) it generally gives the play no chance - aka dead play.

I don’t recall seeing tre smith lose in the capacity of absolutely killing the play (probably just making the play less likely to succeed)

The issue with the LT is they’re giving the play basically 0 % of success. And mahomes will sometimes make magic with a bad block as long as it has a chance
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JPH83 05:33 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by xztop123:
Idk about the Seth Keysor thing.

All losses aren’t considered equal. When our Lts lose (or hold/false start) it generally gives the play no chance - aka dead play.

I don’t recall seeing tre smith lose in the capacity of absolutely killing the play (probably just making the play less likely to succeed)

The issue with the LT is they’re giving the play basically 0 % of success. And mahomes will sometimes make magic with a bad block as long as it has a chance
It's recency bias. Trey had a terrible game against the Bills and a middling one the previous. Wanya had maybe one of his better games against the Bills. This ignores the fact Morris has generally been bad and Smith good. I DO think Smith hasn't had his best year and isn't the best in pass pro, but he's pretty solid most games and significantly better than Morris.
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