Originally Posted by BroncoBuff:
Well, the problem as I see it, the interesting part, isn't the total Super Bowls. Nobody can take the past six years away from the Chiefs. Their current dynasty is on par with 90s Cowboys - maybe even the 70s Steelers.
But BEFORE Mahomes, over the Broncos and Chiefs first five decades - first 48 years in the Big Leagues, in the NFL, the contrast between the two teams is enormous:
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That was a long, looong desolation road for KC. Calling those 48 years a "drought" would be an insult to deserts everywhere.
Meanwhile the Broncos became an elite NFL Franchise. In those 48 years, the Broncos were featured in national TV telecasts more than any other team (largely because they were one of the few teams with home games in the late doubleheader window).
Second most SB appearances of any team - in fact, the Broncos, Patriots and Steelers together represented the AFC in more than half those Super Bowls - and the Broncos' Super Bowls were not all clumped together - they came in the Mid-late 70s, the Mid-late 80s, the Mid-late 90s, and the early-mid teens. All those eras but the 70s were MULTIPLE SB appearances.
Broncos were featured on MNF a record 44 straight years, had a Pro Bowl player a record 47 straight years, and hold the longest (and current) home sellout streak - there has never been an available seat for a Broncos NFL game after the Wednesday of a game week ever.
All these things add up. That, plus the desolation the Chiefs were going through for such a long looong time, THAT'S what's behind this thread. THAT'S what makes you guys so resentful.
Who cares what happened so many years ago? The Chiefs have erased all of that in a span of 6 years.
The Chiefs are the most popular team in America and their dynasty is better than any run you guys have ever had.
Meanwhile the Broncos have been a poverty franchise for nearly 10 years now
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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff:
(A)Sure there were new players, but your accusations, and my defense, were about adding BETTER players than the current guys BECAUSE we made extra cap room by cheating.
(B)FB Howard Griffith was a downgrade from Aaron Craver:
95-96 AARON CRAVER - 25g, 525yd, 666rec, 9td
97-98 HOWARD GRIFFITH- 26g, 47yd, 152rec, 7td
OT Gary Zimmerman retired after first SB - 1st ballot HOF
So obviously there's cap room opened up there
Don't remember Willie Flipper Anderson ever being a Bronco
Neil Smith helped lots, but I mentioned him and I mentioned a few others on your list.
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(C) Guys, I told you. The League's position is they check EVERY roster EVERY week. If there's a problem with the cap they inform the team and the team has to make a change in their roster before they take the field.
(A) The argument was your Donkeys added multiple players to their roster UNLIKE any other team did at that time -- for which they got called out for publicly by Al Davis, and the NFL fined them & docked them draft picks for TWICE, in order to save face and avoid a PR nightmare.
(B) Your Griffith argument is just a strawman & you ain't even got Griffith's stats correct. In 4 years, Griffith had 117 rushing yds & 445 receiving yds. Try again.
Zimmerman was on the 1997 roster wearing the grease on his jersey, but nothing about Zimmerman accounts for Swayne being added to the roster in 1997. And nothing you said about Neil Smith changes your statement of "added just Darrien Gordon and Neil Smith on defense" which was proven false (Keith Traylor, Dedrick Dodge).
(C) The only thing you're telling us is that the League office DIDN'T do what you are suggesting, and when the Donks got publicly exposed for cheating & violating the salary cap later on, they had to scramble to save face.
At the end of the day, the Donks all-time SB record still stands at 0 wins, 5 losses, and 3 given to them as going-away present (2 to Elway & 1 to Manning).
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Originally Posted by RunKC:
Who cares what happened so many years ago? The Chiefs have erased all of that in a span of 6 years.
The Chiefs are the most popular team in America and their dynasty is better than any run you guys have ever had.
Meanwhile the Broncos have been a poverty franchise for nearly 10 years now
He's just here to vicariously admire how an actual dynasty functions...and what it takes to win multiple SB w/o cheating.
Both are foreign concepts to their fans...I dont blame them for being curious.
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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff:
All these things add up. That, plus the desolation the Chiefs were going through for such a long looong time, THAT'S what's behind this thread. THAT'S what makes you guys so resentful.
RUBBISH -- the resentment comes from Donktards like you trying to sell the us the false narrative of the Donks so-called SB wins as being legit, when there's overwhelming evidence put right in front of you that they aren't, and you desperately try to avoid by any means.
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