It’s happening: Titans and Chiefs are working to finalize a trade that would send WR DeAndre Hopkins to Kansas City, league sources tell ESPN. pic.twitter.com/aEeKEgI2D8
Sources: #Titans WR DeAndre Hopkins is being traded to the #Chiefs in exchange for a 5th rounder that can get to a fourth rounder. Deal is being finalized.
A key veteran who could be the final piece, Hopkins name has been hot in the trade market. Now, he lands with the champs. pic.twitter.com/GRvRbUwux6
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I said from the moment we were told about Brown's surgery that I expected him back for the last week or 2 of the regular season. I've ALWAYS operated under the presumption that he'd be back for a playoff run.
And I still would prefer another move. Because we don't really know how Brown will fully incorporate into the offense and we still don't know what we can reasonably ask from Worthy.
Admittedly, my view on offense is seen through an 11 personnel lens. It always has been - its easily my preferred course on offense and has been since I was 13 yrs old playing Joe Montana football on a Sega. So I'm a bit dogmatic there.
But I view the combination of Brown/Hopkins/Worthy as reasonably likely to amount to about 2 'wholes'. Those 3 guys all have significant question marks - I'm not comfortable counting on all 3 of them unless/until we HAVE to.
And we don't. We have a little extra draft capital and there are guys in Johnson and Slayton that can make this a ton smoother for us at a reasonable cost.
I'm just far more comfortable with a top 5 of Brown, Johnson/Slayton, Hopkins, Worthy, Hardman than I am that same group WITHOUT a relatively steady, reliable and versatile presence in that 2 slot. Because when you take that out of there, you're moving everyone else up a peg and that's just a little iffy.
Hopkins at least gives them playable 11 sets now. You can run Hopkins/Worthy/Hardman/Watson through there and present some challenges for a defense, at least. A 12 set with Kelce/Gray/Hopkins/Worthy looks pretty nice, too, and functions a lot like an 11 set because of Kelce.
And yeah, MCL injuries don't just go away (though if his knee was compromised I can't imagine KC trades for him). But his was suffered in TC and he sat for a month after, so it at least has some more time away from it.
I can't see them burning a bunch of draft capital for Johnson now, but someone like Slayton I could see if the comp isn't too crazy. Hopkins also probably lets them negotiate from a better position, too.
They have a lot of contacts coming up after this season and ARE going to need picks to help fill out things... [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
Sir, this isn’t the time for accurate, reasonable analysis.
This is when the blind homerism is on full display.
We’ll come back to reality as soon as Hopkins doesn’t have 200 yards and 3 TDs on 11 catches this week.
Or some of us could see it as it is...a reasonably intelligent move to shore up a decimated receiving corp.
I don't have high expectations for anything more than for Hopkins to be a quality receiver....if he gets 200 yards and 3 TD'S in the next 3 games I will be happy.
Or I can sit and be pissy because BV didn't pay a silly price for Adams or Cooper. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I agree. Now that we have dhop we no longer have a burning need for a wr. But a wr upgrade still helps. And I’m not nearly as concerned about long term impact as others because we’ve been typically very conservative on cap/trades vs most contenders. If that’s the obstacle, it is so easily remedied in a few years with a very quick reset which we should do no matter what anyway.
Exactly.
Again - I said yesterday "Dammit, get to 'yes' -- get a deal done. We'll worry about the margins later, but we need help NOW"...
And they did. That's fine. It's commendable. It was by god necessary.
What we've done is put a pin back in the grenade but the fit isn't perfect and the grenade is still jostling around a bit. Might be enough - maybe the pin stays in there and everyone sings and dances on their way to another parade. But maybe a pothole not far down the road drops that guy out again and by then it's too late to do anything about it.
I wouldn't mind finding a little JB Weld to just firm that fucker up a bit and make sure things aren't harrier than they need to be.
Because as we said at the time of the Toney trade guys, "It's just a 3rd round pick". And the value of Toney was a mere rental once we cut him (a half season plus another season of suck).
And yet because of the contributions he made in that Eagles SB, we'd almost all, to a person, make that trade again.
We HAVE proof of concept with the Toney trade. And proof that we, as fans, have little compunction about the cost. So why have so many flipped on it?
It feels like rationalization to me. I find it extremely hard to believe that if next week we hear that the Chiefs gave the Titans 3rd for Johnson, this board would be full of guys going "NOOOOOOOO!!!!! FOR A RENTAL!!! DAMN YOU BURT!!!!" [Reply]