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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Xavier Worthy Thread*****
Dante84 09:24 PM 04-25-2024
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Hammock Parties 09:34 AM Today
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
He's just been REALLY ordinary.
Oversimplification. Yes, he's had some ordinary games.

He's had several games that flied in stark contrast to that narrative.

He's 7th in QBR, not 17th.
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RunKC 09:55 AM Today
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I said he was very good against Baltimore and good in several other games. But starting in week 2 we've seen this tentative play where he just looks slow to process.

He's left probably 6-8 scores on the field this year through 10 games. That's...a problem. To say nothing of the 1st downs he's left out there.

He's just been REALLY ordinary. And you continue to point to the handful of good plays he makes and you have me convinced you're just not watching a lot of football outside of KC.

A BUNCH of QBs make those plays now. Half the league can probably put together a 10-15 play reel that is as good as what Mahomes has this year. He fundamentally changed the way the position is played - and suddenly he's not playing it that way.
People want to point the finger at Nagy and the playcalling but the fact is the personnel has been changing, the OL has struggled recently and the weapons aren’t there.

One of the biggest problems I’m seeing on offense is RB. We never replaced McKinnon. He was such a dynamic receiving weapon for us. 9 receiving TD’s in 2022 was a big reason we were successful. 4 last year in only 12 games.

Guess how many receiving TD’s we have from a RB this year? 1. That’s literally it. It’s non-existent. Perine is the closest thing we have to McKinnon.

They need to start having Mecole line up in the backfield and get some designed passes to the flat to stretch the LB’s and utilize speed there.

Toney was awful but he did provide that piece of the offense to us at times last year. We just don’t have it right now and it’s a major major problem.
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-King- 10:06 AM Today
Originally Posted by RunKC:
People want to point the finger at Nagy and the playcalling but the fact is the personnel has been changing, the OL has struggled recently and the weapons aren’t there.

One of the biggest problems I’m seeing on offense is RB. We never replaced McKinnon. He was such a dynamic receiving weapon for us. 9 receiving TD’s in 2022 was a big reason we were successful. 4 last year in only 12 games.

Guess how many receiving TD’s we have from a RB this year? 1. That’s literally it. It’s non-existent. Perine is the closest thing we have to McKinnon.

They need to start having Mecole line up in the backfield and get some designed passes to the flat to stretch the LB’s and utilize speed there.

Toney was awful but he did provide that piece of the offense to us at times last year. We just don’t have it right now and it’s a major major problem.
Perine had 50 receptions for 455 yards last year with the broncos. This season he has 174 so far on pace for 296.

That makes zero sense. We could kill 2 birds with one stone using him more. We would get a lot more production from our passing game and most importantly, if you run a few RB screens behind the pass rush, it forces the pass rushers to be less aggressive which helps out the line and in turn allows you to run longer developing downfield plays.

It's the kind of stuff that makes me want to accept the "they're saving things for the playoffs" cope. But...who the fuck saves RB screens lol.
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Sassy Squatch 10:08 AM Today
Originally Posted by -King-:
Perine had 50 receptions for 455 yards last year with the broncos. This season he has 174 so far on pace for 296.

That makes zero sense. We could kill 2 birds with one stone using him more. We would get a lot more production from our passing game and most importantly, if you run a few RB screens behind the pass rush, it forces the pass rushers to be less aggressive which helps out the line and in turn allows you to run longer developing downfield plays.

It's the kind of stuff that makes me want to accept the "they're saving things for the playoffs" cope. But...who the fuck saves RB screens lol.
Not to mention Hunt isn't exactly chopped liver out of the backfield either. Well, when he's not getting mashed into the LOS 20+ times a game.
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-King- 10:08 AM Today
He also had 238 yards rushing on 4.5ypc. Meanwhile this year he has 33 less rushing attempts than Carson Steele :-) Someone make it make sense.
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DJ's left nut 10:11 AM Today
Originally Posted by -King-:
He also had 238 yards rushing on 4.5ypc. Meanwhile this year he has 33 less rushing attempts than Carson Steele :-) Someone make it make sense.
Can't.

We've wildly underutilized Perine. Watching Steele blow a blitz pickup every single game is just driving me completely insane.
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RunKC 10:11 AM Today
I am not going to argue with you guys. Idk why the hell they put Steele out there bc he provides nothing.

Perine is the best all around back we have right now. Excellent blocker, capable runner and really solid receiving threat.

It makes me sick seeing Steele out there instead of him
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O.city 10:14 AM Today
Yeah, I don't get the Steele thing at this point. Just put Perine out there.
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Sassy Squatch 10:17 AM Today
Yeah, I'm really not understanding why they completely shift away from Worthy the rest of the game after he makes a mistake but that dude keeps getting chances. Neat story, it's cute that he has a pet crocodile and all that jazz, but he's just a massive liability on the field. My hope is Thornton was brought in to replace Steele as a returner once Pacheco gets back and he's no longer needed.
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RunKC 10:26 AM Today
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah, I don't get the Steele thing at this point. Just put Perine out there.
Andy used Toney in that RB role and it worked out fairly well. He’s used Hardman there in the past.

Need to do that again. Hell Sean Payton is doing that in Denver with Marvin Mims and it’s working.

They need speed at the RB spot for those passes in the flat. They aren’t making the first guy miss very often anymore.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 10:27 AM Today
Originally Posted by Mahomes007:
I remember those seasons, not too long ago, where each game we expected an average of high 200s or low 300 yards per game, at least 2 or 3 TD's on average, and no picks. That would be your typical Mahomes game, game in and game out. He has regressed, and it's over a long enough stretch where I could see this no longer being an extended slump of sorts and just his relative norm moving forward. A bit sad to think about. Perhaps he did peak early in his career? Every player's career arc is different.

Irregardless of whether the team continues to be able to win Super Bowl(s) or not.
I hate to pick at low hanging fruit, but wtf is this?

Look I get that Mahomes has had 2 incredibly ordinary seasons, but now we're saying he's regressed and that's it? The Patrick we once knew is long gone and we'll never get him back?

I just can't in good faith engage in actual football convos when stuff like this gets slung around.
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