Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
It's almost like all teams aren't perfect because they have limited resources and opportunities to address all their issues. Weird indeed.
It's a good point.
The benefit of that rookie QB contract was real and it is for every team. It catches up to everyone who eventually pays their QB.
And if you're gonna have an elite defense, well, the opportunity cost is gonna show up somewhere on the roster. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
I don't give a ****. He's graded on another level because he expects it of himself and is on another level than those other chodes. He's in his own tier, so stop making excuses for poor play. He's better than this. Keep your Lebron hero worship shit away from my team.
Do you have any idea how ridiculous it would look to other fanbases to be crying like this about the best QB ever (during a 9-0 season coming off B2B SBs) because he missed a throw or two?
If Mahomes ever gets hurt again to the point he has to miss games (which unfortunately may happen with a turnstile like Kingsley at LT), I think some may be in for a rude awakening about how much he actually does out there and how much better even a subpar Mahomes is than practically every other QB in the sport. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I'm with ya. I can't tell you how many times these past two years I have thought, "damn, was Andrew Wylie and Orlando Brown Jr. really that much better than what we got now?...."
And I just can't bring myself to believe that's the main reason. Those tackles struggled too their fair share.
You can split the blame up however you want, but the eye test says Mahomes' just isn't playing up to his standard. Like this should be the first year of his career he doesn't earn a Pro Bowl bid, and I'll almost be upset if he does, because it just is not deserved.
That said, just like last year, I expect his best when we need it most. And maybe that's part of the issue. This team is in a constant state of wanting to get on with the postseason already.
EDIT: Just saw your 9:35am post.... yep.
Probably the cumulative effect of substandard OT play. Go back and watch some of those games in 2021 when we had Brown and Wylie. Mahomes was getting lit the fuck up and playing his worst ball at points there too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan:
Isn't the saying "it's not how you start but how you finish?"
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
And one of them is by far the most important to actually winning games.
I'm sorry but I'm old enough to remember us laughing at the John Elway "4th Quarter Comeback" stats that were all made necessary by him being lousy for 3 quarters.
Points count the same no matter when they're scored fellas.
Lets play better in the first 3 quarters so that we don't have to demand excellence in the 4th. Because I'm gonna go ahead and guess your little Mike Greenberg post there was from BEFORE last weekend. Patrick most assuredly did not save the day in the 4th on Sunday.
He'll get that '4th quarter comeback' stat but if they'd have not blocked that kick, Patrick would've been the biggest single culprit in that loss. And he's definitely not the biggest single reason why they won. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
It's a good point.
The benefit of that rookie QB contract was real and it is for every team. It catches up to everyone who eventually pays their QB.
And if you're gonna have an elite defense, well, the opportunity cost is gonna show up somewhere on the roster.
It's why 3-peat's don't happen.
The Disease of More.
It's already cost us a guy who's probably gonna end up in the Hall of Fame. We're fortunate that Kelce plays a position that's largely undervalued or it might have cost us another (not Kelce, but potentially Jones due to the money Kelce could've commanded).
It's damn hard to keep great teams together. And sooner or later this team's gonna decline. The odds of another HoF pass catcher walking through that door are pretty low as Kelce declines. Or as Jones declines, the odds of us getting another interior lineman that can destroy creation like he can aren't great.
It's just the nature of the beast. We're in rare times.
I'm fine acknowledging that while also saying that our QB isn't playing up to what we know he's capable of. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I'm sorry but I'm old enough to remember us laughing at the John Elway "4th Quarter Comeback" stats that were all made necessary by him being lousy for 3 quarters.
Points count the same no matter when they're scored fellas.
Lets play better in the first 3 quarters so that we don't have to demand excellence in the 4th. Because I'm gonna go ahead and guess your little Mike Greenberg post there was from BEFORE last weekend. Patrick most assuredly did not save the day in the 4th on Sunday.
He'll get that '4th quarter comeback' stat but if they'd have not blocked that kick, Patrick would've been the biggest single culprit in that loss. And he's definitely not the biggest single reason why they won.
But it shows his clutch gene. He has it. Mahomes has almost always played this way. We have never blown teams out, but when we absolutely need a play he almost always pulls it out.
The thing you have to remember is that for every team we play, we are their Superbowl. We are the game everyone has circled. They will always bring their A game. Our team isn't going to play A+ every week. Including mahomes. [Reply]