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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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KC_Lee 07:42 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
The Pac 12 2 is back from the dead.

Link: https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ence-rebuilds/
Looks like a nice mid-major conference that the PAC-(insert random number) is building.
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Ocotillo 09:47 AM Yesterday

You will never be able to convince me this isn’t the old WAC. They might as well name Karl Benson the next commissioner https://t.co/4f38QvrSRh

— Joel D. Anderson �� (@byjoelanderson) September 12, 2024



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FloridaMan88 09:50 AM Yesterday
The ACC/Big 12/the Pac Whatever will eventually merge after the SEC and Big 10 take the schools they want from those respective conferences.
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Ocotillo 09:55 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
The ACC/Big 12/the Pac Whatever will eventually merge after the SEC and Big 10 take the schools they want from those respective conferences.
The ACC is the only one remaining with schools of any real value to them. Maybe a Big 12 school or two might get lucky and get invited. The Pac 6 has no chance to get poached.
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DJ's left nut 10:36 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters:
4 major conferences sounds about right.
I still feel like, geographically speaking, 5 was a great number.

The Big12 and Big10 cover 'flyover country' extremely well, SEC the south, ACC the Northeast, PAC the West.

4 just has those conferences too spread out, IMO.

It's a real big country, lads. 4 conferences covering the whole smash is asking a lot.
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RustShack 02:36 PM Yesterday
6 PAC or BrokePacMountain?

They still need to get to 8 by 2026 to be considered a conference though. 12 to hold a conference championship game(although could probably get a waiver for 10 schools like the Big12 did).
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RustShack 02:37 PM Yesterday
Maybe they get Stanford and Cal back as well as add SMU after the ACC gets picked apart.
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Ocotillo 09:47 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by RustShack:
Maybe they get Stanford and Cal back as well as add SMU after the ACC gets picked apart.
Stanford and Cal are so full of their academic prestige that I can't see them associating themselves with the academically inferior California State schools.
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ChiefsCountry 09:57 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I still feel like, geographically speaking, 5 was a great number.

The Big12 and Big10 cover 'flyover country' extremely well, SEC the south, ACC the Northeast, PAC the West.

4 just has those conferences too spread out, IMO.

It's a real big country, lads. 4 conferences covering the whole smash is asking a lot.
Its huge country but there really is no population to speak from California border to about Interstate 35.
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