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Tribal Warfare 12:00 AM Yesterday
Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs Kansas City Chiefs odds - Nov 4


Spread Favorite: Kansas City (-9)
Moneyline: Kansas City (-446), Tampa Bay (+346)
Total: 45.5 points


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RealSNR 12:25 PM Today
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
You know what hampered our pass rush?

Sending Malik fucking Herring out there for the entire final drive instead of Uche.

I think Karlaftis was hurt. He didn't even have his helmet on (though he did have it in his hand). I think KC essentially sat him down.

But Uche was standing on the sidelines snapped up and ready to go the whole time. And I saw at least two plays where we sent Herring on a damn stunt - like that EVER had a chance to work.

You have Uche there, you may get that pressure. Because he made stuff happen even when he wasn't the first guy you saw. I watched him every time he was on the field and that was a heck of an addition.

And we didn't use him a bit in the situation that we seemingly acquired him for. I really don't get that.

The one time I’ve ever been cross with Spags was when he insisted on using Sorensen in early 2021 even though he was an obvious liability in coverage.

I don’t know. Every so often he gets too afraid to elevate players who have chances to make plays and instead opts for the boring shitty vets he knows. I’m sure that’s every coach to some degree, but yeah. Don’t know Uche’s snap count last night and I’m willing to be somewhat patient with it being his first game but come on. Put him on the field tell him to go get the QB. You don’t need to study the playbook very hard to know what to do on that play
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Megatron96 01:01 PM Today
Originally Posted by Why Not?:
I don’t think they do that on penalties. If they did, that horrid missed face mask on Darnold a couple weeks ago would’ve been corrected.


Ah, now I remember. For some unknown reason they can't fix facemask calls. That's why they didn't fix the facemask on Darnold a couple weeks ago.
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stevegroganfan 01:21 PM Today
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Bowles is a nice guy and a defensive guru but also a conservative pussy. Always has been.

I believe him when he says they gave “very minor consideration” to going for 2 there. It probably wasn’t even on his radar.

Bigger issue than not going for it was calling a timeout when they got to the 1 yard line with 30 seconds left. I suppose he wanted to leave some wiggle room to be able to run the ball without worrying about time expiring but it didn’t make much sense to me.
Chiefs didn't score to end regulation but giving KC/Mahomes/Butker that much time is just plain dumb. Butker hitting a 60-65 yard field goal at end of regulation after Mahomes got a couple of first downs would have surprised no one. With field goal kickers now able to hit from 60+, leaving a team additional time on the clock with several timeouts doesn't make enough sense even if it means reducing your own ability to run the ball.

In Tampa's shoes, I would have gone for 2 but to be fair to Tampa, they may not have practiced that many 2-point plays without Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.
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