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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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brdempsey69 10:46 PM Today
Originally Posted by manchambo:
That’s not what we’re talking about. We’re talking about the Super Bowl gifts the league gives Denver.
Quite the contrary, it is what we are talking about.
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manchambo 10:50 PM Today
Originally Posted by brdempsey69:
Quite the contrary, it is what we are talking about.
Are you drunker than usual?

Let’s try this in a simpler way. Tell me which of the following sentences you disagree with:

When Elway was the Denver QB, the NFL gifted Denver with five SB appearances and two wins.

When Manning was the Denver QB, the NFL gifted Denver with two SB appearances and one win.
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brdempsey69 11:00 PM Today
Originally Posted by manchambo:
Are you drunker than usual?

Let’s try this in a simpler way. Tell me which of the following sentences you disagree with:

When Elway was the Denver QB, the NFL gifted Denver with five SB appearances and two wins.

When Manning was the Denver QB, the NFL gifted Denver with two SB appearances and one win.
Don't drink.

Elway was gifted 2 SB's in 1997 & 1998. Manning was gifted 2 appearances and 1 trophy.

While we are at it, let us correctly translate what Pat Bowlen was really saying when he held up the trophy after the Donks were gifted their first SB trophy and said "This one's for John". It goes like this:

"This FRAUDULENT one was gifted to John, because John wasn't good enough to earn a legit SB trophy in legit fashion on a level playing field, as evidenced by Super Bowls 21, 22, and 24 where John played like a girl & got his buck-toothed head handed to him when John did have the chance to earn a SB in legit fashion. And let us not forget that John, this 1997 season rode the coat-tails of a ridiculously easy schedule, the most horribly biased officiating going in our Donkeys favor unparalelled in football history, and Terrell Davis racking up massive rushing numbers behind an O-Line that was repeatedly allowed to get away with massive holding, illegal chop-blocks, leg-whips and even wearing Vaseline-like substance. And all that in addition to our cheating & violating the salary cap. That is the real reason that I'm now saying..'this one's for John'."
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BlackOp 11:03 PM Today
Originally Posted by manchambo:
So your current position is that Denver is gonna get its talent raided in free agency?
Ha..no. There are like 3 decent players that will leave though...depends on if they resign Bolles.

If they dont...there goes your 1st/2nd round pick...essentially a lateral transition...then you have to replace the ones that do leave.
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manchambo 11:13 PM Today
Originally Posted by brdempsey69:
Don't drink.

Elway was gifted 2 SB's in 1997 & 1998. Manning was gifted 2 appearances and 1 trophy.

While we are at it, let us correctly translate what Pat Bowlen was really saying when he held up the trophy after the Donks were gifted their first SB trophy and said "This one's for John". It goes like this:

"This FRAUDULENT one was gifted to John, because John wasn't good enough to earn a legit SB trophy in legit fashion on a level playing field, as evidenced by Super Bowls 21, 22, and 24 where John played like a girl & got his buck-toothed head handed to him when John did have the chance to earn a SB in legit fashion. And let us not forget that John, this 1997 season rode the coat-tails of a ridiculously easy schedule, the most horribly biased officiating going in our Donkeys favor unparalelled in football history, and Terrell Davis racking up massive rushing numbers behind an O-Line that was repeatedly allowed to get away with massive holding, illegal chop-blocks, leg-whips and even wearing Vaseline-like substance. And all that in addition to our cheating & violating the salary cap. That is the real reason that I'm now saying..'this one's for John'."
So I’m dealing with a glue freak. That’s ok.

But I think we can agree that, when Denver has had a QB at least as good as Elway, the NFL has gifted Denver with at least an appearance in the SB at a rate of every three to four years. Right?
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manchambo 11:15 PM Today
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Ha..no. There are like 3 decent players that will leave though...depends on if they resign Bolles.

If they dont...there goes your 1st/2nd round pick...essentially a lateral transition...then you have to replace the ones that do leave.
And this is a particular problem for Denver because? The Wilson dead money that decreases after this year?

Why are we even talking about this instead of how bad Mo Pix is?
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brdempsey69 11:27 PM Today
Originally Posted by manchambo:
So I’m dealing with a glue freak. That’s ok.

But I think we can agree that, when Denver has had a QB at least as good as Elway, the NFL has gifted Denver with at least an appearance in the SB at a rate of every three to four years. Right?
No, you are simply dealing with your own self-delusion.

And where are you getting this "an appearance in the SB at a rate of every three to four years" from. No such thing ever happened.

They appeared (legitimately) in 3 of 4 years from 1986 -- 1989. They got gifted their appearances in 1997, 1998, 2013, and 2015. That ISN'T every 3 to 4 years as you falsely project.

And let's just see in depth how good your boy Elway really was:

It CAN be unfair to compare QBs from different eras. So this post will be an attempt to compare Elway to his own peers. During John Elway's career (1983 to 1998), there were 19 QBs who started 100+ games. Here is where Elway ranks in major statistical categories:

Completion%: 16th
TD%: 13th
INT%: 10th
Passer Rating: 14th
Yards per Attempt: 10th
Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt: 11th

So if you believe (like many do), that John Elway is one of the top 10 QBs of all time, why wasn't he even statistically a top 10 QB in his own era?

And why is it never mentioned by Donktards that of all the QB's that started multiple SB's, that Elway STUNK UP THE FIELD worse than any of them? Could it be that Donktards like you have their heads so far up Elway's arse that every time Elway farts, Donktards like you probably literally get their shoes blown off their feet?
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