Originally Posted by jd1020:
No one agreed with you.
Someone said he has potentially peaked. That peak being a 3rd best outfielder in a complimentary role. He's an above average baseball player. No one has ever said he's a star.
You on the other hand, think hes absolutely terrible and would dump him for salary relief.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I mean on this we can ALL agree...
I mean shit, Cubs - I WANTED you to put us in a hole this year and you couldn't even do THAT right.
Jed Hoyer strives for mediocrity like Mozeliak does.
He literally said that looking at last year mid 80 wins got you in the playoffs, so that's what they aimed for. Not winning the division, not becoming a legit WS contender while being the 4th largest market in the fucking sport... mid 80 wins. So he trotted out virtually the same fucking team as last season with the addition of a Japanese pitcher who's potential greatly outweighed the risk of the contract he would get. And what do you know, they ended with the same god damn record. He was just bummed it took 90 wins this year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Jed Hoyer strives for mediocrity like Mozeliak does.
He literally said that looking at last year mid 80 wins got you in the playoffs, so that's what they aimed for. Not winning the division, not becoming a legit WS contender while being the 4th largest market in the fucking sport... mid 80 wins. So he trotted out virtually the same fucking team as last season with the addition of a Japanese pitcher who's potential greatly outweighed the risk of the contract he would get. And what do you know, they ended with the same god damn record. He was just bummed it took 90 wins this year.
'last year'?
Oh you sweet summer child.
Our owner said that 6 years ago. BEFORE the playoffs expanded. We want to play meaningful baseball in September and 88 wins makes the playoffs...
So yeah, you know 85 wins and sneaking in by a game was the target mark with that sweet, sweeet 3rd wild card spot. But he just didn't count on so many teams in the NL being bad enough that it still took 89 to make the post-season.
Lemme tell ya - The fun has just begun. When ownership gets it in their heads that simply sneaking into the playoffs is all you need to do, it's just a JOY to watch them work.
You're gonna like how this goes. Because you see, shortly before that sort of thing happens, you get "88 wins isn't good enough" but not long after you get post-game pressers where nothing changes and your owner says "83 wins is a winning season...I think its an exciting team to watch"
BREAKING NEWS: The Reds are hiring Terry Francona to be their new manager, per source. Announcement expected as soon as Friday. https://t.co/JYmdYMD8Ro
BREAKING NEWS: The Reds are hiring Terry Francona to be their new manager, per source. Announcement expected as soon as Friday. https://t.co/JYmdYMD8Ro
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Eh. That's not our race next year anyway.
We're racing the Pirates for the basement. Cincy has WAY more talent that the Cardinals and a lot more room for growth.
Speaking of the Pirates, what do you think of their rebuild?
They have the arms (Paul Skenes, Jared Jones, Bubba Chandler, Mitch Keller) for a window to compete.
Their position player group is underwhelming but I do like Bryan Reynolds and O'Neil Cruz.
Overall, with more competent moves, they could make a run. Their GM Ben Cherington won the World Series with the 2013 Red Sox.
But ownership seems to get in the way, too. They jipped Rowdy Tellez and Isiah Kiner-Falefa for incentative-based bonuses before they could reach them in September, letting all of MLBPA know they're cheap. During their 2013-15 window, ownership would never make the extra move to go above the $105 million threshold in payroll. [Reply]
